Spiral Jump Stunt Slowed Down for the James Bond Movie?

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Spiral Jump Stunt Slowed Down for the James Bond Movie?

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Q: Some high school students from Morristown, New Jersey who are working on a project about calculus in James Bond movies asked the following question:
  • We heard the original stunt was slowed down in editing, do you know to what degree this was done to the final product?


A: Not sure where you heard that ‘the original stunt was slowed down in editing’?
  • And we never had checked...the flight is such a thing a beauty...guess we didn't notice!
    soooo now in response to your question we now just did a quick comparison...
A couple notes:
  • In the movie:
    • The cuts to the sheriff hollering etc showed a fake interior shot of him being tossed around
      • Bond and the sheriff obviously weren't really in the stunt car...
        • although in a court case once Ray was asked on the stand about what kind of exposure (accelerations, etc) did they experience being tossed around...holding back laughing...he had to tell them that they weren't in the car!!
        • ...the actual driver of the stunt car was legendary stunt driver Bumps Willert!
    • They added the fake train whistle to the sound which folks don’t like.
    • And possible differences in frame rate between the 16 mm handheld camera shot and the 35 mm movie shot
    • and issues related to conversion of those movies to digital and frame rate related issues...
However, EXCELLENT observation and question!
We just now did a quick check/comparison (crude but demonstrates differences!)
so the answer to your question is: YES!
Quick comparison demonstrated a 42% reduction in speed in the James Bond movie of the actual live event
see the video comparison:


The live video from a handheld camera:


With the video from the movie




Note the original stunt was designed for an AMC Javelin and the stunt in the movie appears to be a AMC Hornet
however
  • they merely put a body shell on the Javelin frame.
And another item of trivia related to 'slow down rumors':
  • Mattel was interested in adding a spiral jump as a option for their slot car race track toys.
  • Ray and I worked on the prototype of the toy in our basement in Buffalo
  • But when demonstrated the toy makers said 'too fast'!
  • in smaller scale everything happens too fast
You can't scale gravity...the inertia of a very small vehicle will make it rotate much faster than the large full scale vehicle
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Re: Was the stunt slowed down in editing for the movie?

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Another bit of trivia related to that stunt for the movie:
  • Just now speaking with Ray he said:
    • Originally a lot of time and energy was spent by Ray with HVOSM (now known as msmac3D) redesigning the stunt for the Bond movie for a Lincoln DeTomaso Pantera...
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      • a much more appropriate Bond car
    • Back to the original stunt, at some point during prep for the Bond movie Lincoln dropped out of sponsorship of the movie
      • ...so they scrambled and went with the AMC Hornet??!!
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Re: Spiral Jump Stunt Slowed Down for the James Bond Movie?

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Since this question was from high school students about doing a calculus project....
Had to add a great quote on Calculus from the book Clockwork Universe
I found my book and didn't yet find the quote BUT liked this from the book...
  • "The new tool for describing the moving, changing world was called calculus.
    With its discovery, every scientist in the world suddenly held in his hands a magical machine.
    Pose a question that asked how far? how fast? how high?
    Calculus made it easy to take a snapshot --to freeze the action at any given instant-- and to then examine, at leisure, an arrow of momentary motionless..."
From the NYTimes review of the excellent book
  • "Newton invented (and Gottfried Leibniz, the German philosopher, reinvented) the math of motion, calculus, the way of answering how fast, how far, how high? Then Newton used his calculus to show how an apple is pulled to the earth and how the earth pulls the moon into an orbit, and how these pulls are the same as the sun’s on the planets. And this universal pull, this gravity, everywhere operates on the same math: the greater the masses of the bodies and the closer they are together, the stronger the pull. Newton didn’t limit himself to explaining the solar system. Nor was he the only genius whose calculations and inventions described the underlying order of the universe in such a way that we needn’t merely take the descriptions on faith. We can believe them; they’re science."
Get the book and enjoy the read!
A Great read about the beginnings of calculus and the foundations of our understanding of the world in motion!
Enjoy calculus and the power it gives to your understanding of the world in motion!
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