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Toyota disputes critic Gilbert who blamed electronics

Post by MSI » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:24 pm

Mar 8, 2010: Toyota today ran a webcast demonstration to undercut suggestions by a Lawyer's group sponsored expert, David Gilbert. Gilbert was featured on ABC News and gave testimony in the Congressional hearing.
The company used the director of Stanford University's Center for Automotive Research to refute the claims. Stanford professor Chris Gerdes demonstrated that the malfunctions Gilbert produced "are completely unrealistic under real-world conditions and can easily be reproduced on a wide range of vehicles made by other manufacturers."
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During the webcast they demonstrated that the trick used by Gilbert to produce wide open throttle does not and can not occur in the real world. And they further demonstrated that using the very same technique on a number of other cars by other vehicle manufacturers:
  • 1) Shaving 3 of 6 wires in the gas pedal assembly to expose the copper wires
    2) Bridging a connection between two of those shaved wires across two other wires in between the two shaved wires which are not shaved (so as to avoid shorting them and producing a fault code!)
    3) Applying an outside source for an electrical short to the third shaved wire
will produce the same result: wide open throttle and no fault indication. So the Gilbert demonstration was merely a parlor trick.
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Re: Toyota disputes critic Gilbert who blamed electronics

Post by MSI » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:29 pm

The following is a link to slides from the presentation today:
Comprehensive Analysis Raises Concerns About Gilbert Congressional Testimony, ABC News Segment

Exponent: Evaluation of Dr. Gilbert's Demonstration which includes where Exponent also evaluated how other manufacturers’ vehicles responded when subjected to Dr. Gilbert’s protocol. The vehicles tested were a 2009 Mercedes E350, a 2003 BMW 325i, a 2008 Honda Accord, a 2006 Subaru Impreza Outback, and a 2005 Chrysler Crossfire.
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Re: Toyota disputes critic Gilbert who blamed electronics

Post by MSI » Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:11 pm

July 11, 2010: JIM SUHR of the Washington Post must have had a slow news day, so he decided to stir the Toyota pot and writes an irresponsible report Toyota lashed out at instructor during big recall
If you want to see what’s wrong with the Gilbert parlor trick, see the article Will Toyota encounter a press created Audi 5000 type fiasco? and the Exponent demonstration of why it is simply a parlor trick, nothing more.
But of course “To Gilbert, "it seemed like an awful large amount of effort to be extended by a company to dispel something." He was unswayed by what he saw in California.”
Sure, trash a company with a parlor trick and expect them to turn the other cheek!
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