A question on the forum INCR on 'faked left' syndrome, where a vehicle sees a vehicle on the wrong side of the road so steers to the other side. At the same time the other vehicle does too. So the impact is in the other vehicles proper lane. how do you sort out things?
On INCR they posted a link to a paper by Joe Badger
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and other papers:
- D'Addario, P.M. (2014). Perception-Response Time to Emergency Roadway Hazards and the Effect of Cognitive Distraction, Master's Thesis. University of Toronto. -
- Oncoming vehicle crosses over 3.5 sec prior to impact. Correct lane drivers hit the brake on avg 2 sec after the intrusion or about 1.3 sec before impact.
- Dinakar, S., Muttart, J.W. (2019). SAE paper 2019-01-0414 Behaviors During Left Turn Across Path from The Opposite Direction Crashes and Near Crashes in Naturalistic Driving -
- Drivers started the maneuver about the same time, no matter when the opposing car intruded their lane.
- McGehee and Carsten (2010) - Perception and biodynamics in unalerted precrash response
- All drivers in this study crashed. Maneuvers were started just before impact.
- Handcock and DeRidder (2003) - Behavioural accident avoidance science: Understanding response in collision incipient conditions
- Responding drivers took a wait and see approach, hoping the intruder would return to their lane. Once the driver
responded, the other driver responded shortly thereafter. Response was as low as 3.5 seconds.
- Responding drivers took a wait and see approach, hoping the intruder would return to their lane. Once the driver
- D'Addario, P.M. (2014). Perception-Response Time to Emergency Roadway Hazards and the Effect of Cognitive Distraction, Master's Thesis. University of Toronto. -
- First from this post on another crash reconstruction forum about a woman who's daughter was charged with being on the wrong side of the road and the police 'proved' she was using PC-CRASH
so i created a thread: So I included the following in the long post/response (I repeat here parts since it is about 'faked left syndrome'
First, i am reminded of a driving story told to me by my late uncle Ken as a warning when driving...- One of his first driving experiences some 75+ years ago (he passed recently at 90+ years old)
As a young driver he was driving down the road in rural Maine and saw a vehicle on his side of the road.
He decided to go to the other lane to pass the vehicle on the wrong side of the road.
The other driver at the last minute came back over to his proper lane of travel and they collided.
The police charged my uncle with being on the wrong side of the road and causing the crash.
Studies have shown that intoxicated people head 'towards the light' so that is why trying to swerve around someone traveling in your lane may make them come back 'to the light' and collide with you and make it appear you are to blame.
it is also why at some crash sites all lit up with emergency vehicles that they sometimes 'attract' intoxicated drivers who 'head towards the light' and crash into the rescue vehicles and cause further carnage.
As a quick demonstration for that post on whether pc-crash can 'prove' who was on the wrong side of the road?, i did a msmac3D simulation of two somewhat similar vehicles on the scene w/pc-crash results posted on that other thread.
In the quick preliminary demonstration i demonstrated if the other vehicle came back from the opposite lane you still can match the approximate rest positions of the vehicles- (need actual makes/models/weights, damage measurements/pictures, tire mark evidence, scene evidence, etc)
- One of his first driving experiences some 75+ years ago (he passed recently at 90+ years old)